Founders of Embodied Presence Lee and Jamus join me to talk about working with partners, BMC, dance and contact improv, spiritual enquiry, experiential anatomy, the animal body, “safety” and support, trauma, growth vs healing, “grounding”, the heart, nature “doing the heavy lifting”, taking time to let things digest, embodied consciousness, sight impairment, and the contrast between sexy fast and hard training and more gentle considered training.

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