Key-note speakers, personal development and business trainers Allison and Nick Jankel-Elliott join Mark to discuss how intellectualism and athleticism can both be ways out of embodiment. They chat about gymnastics, rave culture, perfectionism, the “performance body”, ecstasy – the pill and state, integration of high states into life, tips for working with “squares” in business, California, pain, science, embodied relationships, success and the growth industry and more. A really bright alive discussion.

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