Craniosacral teacher and author Michael Kern discusses this gentle form of bodywork, its history coming form osteopathy, and its techniques. He talks about the deep rhythms of the body, wholeness, presence and being embodied as a bodyworker, the deep urge for health in us, subtle energy and what CST is best for. He and Mark discuss how doing bodywork effects the practitioners, and how to become “teflon” and avoid vicarious trauma. They also chat about the Breath of Life Conference and some of the notable speakers there such as Peter Levine, Emilie Conrad and Gabor Maté. The interview concludes with discussion on simply slowing down and listening to the body not the experts.